From Terrible Diagnosis To A Wellness Empire - chat with Mikki Meisner

Does being healthy impact your wealth?

In the case of our guest this week - it played a pivotal role in her achieving massive success. 

Mikki Meisner is a true example of how you can turn your "mess into your message", and use your wellness journey into a wildly successful [and profitable] venture. 

Join us as she walks us through her journey from a life-altering diagnosis to a movement helping people live a fulfilled and healthy life.
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Transcript

From Terrible Diagnosis To A Wellness Empire - chat with Mikki Meisner

Ian Manheimer 00:03
 Hello, and welcome to Habits Of Influence, a podcast for entrepreneurs by entrepreneurs, where we discuss the good, the bad, and the ugly side of being an entrepreneur. Joining us today, we have Mikki Meisner with Vibrant Health Wellness Centre with over 27 years of experience in the health and wellness industry. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 00:21
 Mikki, thank you so much for joining us. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 00:23
 Thank you for having me. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 00:24
 Oh, my pleasure. I'm super excited about this because I know from what about you in our different conversations, you are definitely somebody who likes to go against the grain and kind of just say things as they are. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 00:34
 You don't candy coat. You don't BS that. You're a straightforward person. That's exactly what we're looking for. Just to get our audience familiar with you, tell us a little bit about yourself, what you do, and what got you started. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 00:48
 Well, let's start with what got me started with a lot of people that I know in the wellness industry. Illness got me started, and when I was 28, I was diagnosed with fourth stage cervical cancer, and they wanted to take all my parts out and cut, burn, and poison me, and I said, no, thank you. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 01:07
 So I became an herbalist and legitimately went out into the woods and drug home forest products and made medicine out of them. And I'm really simplifying it, but I healed myself. It took me a year. And in that whole process, I realized that people needed to know this stuff. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 01:24
 And so I apprenticed as an herbalist, and I started a little company called urban wildflowers and started making teas and tinctures and SABS and ointments and potions and lotions and pop up booths at wellness fairs and bazaars and try to sell. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 01:41
 My one customer said it really well. He said, this looks like yard debris. And as you can imagine, it was really hard to get people to stop eating meat and dairy and drink warmwood tea. So I was really going against the grain from the gate, you know? 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 02:03
 Well, as my doctor said, you're going to die. You're going to die. And I just said, no, thank you. What I didn't know at the time was 90% of women do die from what I was diagnosed with within the first year, with or without treatment. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 02:18
 And I just said, no, thanks. I'm out not making your Mercedes payment, and I have a lot of tenacity. I just decided which is that's a clue? I just made that decision that I was going to live. I had a six week old baby at that time, and so I, you know, I became an herbalist. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 02:38
 And as I went on, I realized that there's a lot of regulations with this that as making yard debris tea, I just wasn't aware of. So I kind of had to change my business model at that time. That was 96, 97, I believe. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 03:00
 And and, you know, as I went on, I realized that going against the grain is a really hard business model, and there was so much education with people, so people would hear my story and go, hey, Mickey, I have the C word. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 03:15
 I'm not actually allowed to use the C word in my wellness journey, which is super frustrating. Like I said, I do go against the grain. I would be mocking up, here's your diet plan, and here's your herb protocol. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 03:33
 And as I was apprenticing at this little herb trader store, people would come in with the same issues, and we'd mock up a tea, and we'd give it to him. And one day he looked at and I would be like, okay, clearly you have dairy issues. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 03:46
 Get off dairy because your nose keeps running, and blah, blah, blah. And he looked at me and he said, you can't tell people that. I'm like, why? And he said, well, one, you're not a nutritionist, and two, if they get well, we don't make any money. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 04:02
 Okay, I'm out. I quit. That day, I was like, okay, I don't want to say no better than a doctor, but that was what went through my head. Like, I don't want to make money because people are sick. I want to actually help people and empower people. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 04:15
 So in 2008, I discovered something called Kangen water. And I was really skeptical when they told me about the business. I literally said, no, thank you. Um, let me say no three times real quick, and let's be done with this, is what I actually said to her. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 04:33
 And I drank the water, and I was just so amazed at what it could do. And I shared it with all my friends, and every time I shared it with someone, I just became more befuddled of, what is this stuff? 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 04:45
 And why does it do all of this stuff? And so I couldn't stop. And I bought a machine. Not to get into the business, but the business did come with it. And since it was 2008 and the market was circling the drain, my now ex husband was a general contractor, and we were flipping houses, and we had purchased a very beautiful house that needed a lot of work. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 05:14
 And suddenly it was worth less than we paid for it. And we hadn't done any work. I thought, Well, I don't want to be homeless, so I guess I'm going into the water business. And so I just took it seriously. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 05:27
 And in 2008, nobody was into wellness, and nobody had heard about this water. And it was not easy, and, well, it's never been easy, but I was determined, and I actually did keep us from being homeless, um, just by sharing water and educating people. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 05:46
 And I really learned that the more I work on me, the more I serve, the more I give, the more money I made. And it just kind of became this. I want to call it a vicious cycle, but it was just this. It was like, wait a minute, wait a minute. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 06:04
 Let me get this straight. The better person I become, the more money I make? Does this get any better? 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 06:09
 Isn't it funny the way that works sometimes? And I want to go back to something you mentioned a little while ago where you were saying about the C word that you don't like to talk about, and the medical industry, how they've really kind of skewed anything that's like naturopathic or homeopathic or natural things actually prevent or cure illness. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 06:28
 And it has become such a stigma of you have to buy into the big pharmaceutical companies. You have to believe this. If you get this, you have to do these treatments. And those treatments aren't always successful, and sometimes they're more harmful than good. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 06:43
 The more I learn, the bratier I become. I'm not kidding you. Chemo works actually 2% of the time. And I joined this nonprofit called Kicking Cancer. And Baron Robinson, who's the founder of it, him, and I like, I'm on several of his podcasts, KSLM FM. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 07:06
 Anyway? It's in Salem. And he just brings up these facts and pulls my string and says, go. And the more I learn about the health industry, the more disgusted I become and the more determined I am to really help people understand that they don't have to go with the mainstream protocol. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 07:31
 What happens is and I know this because ten years later, my cancer came back. I hate saying my cancer. Let me rephrase that. The cancer came back like this part of what I teach is, you know, the verbology that we use, like we own our disease. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 07:46
 But anyway, ten years later, it came back, and I realized that wellness is a lifestyle. It's a journey. It's a day by day decision that you make. Everything you eat, all the thoughts you think, the people that you hang around with, your environment. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 08:04
 And so I really got more into the coaching aspect of how to help people take their power back, because you don't know what you don't know, and you get a diagnosis, and you turn into this Bobblehead. Well, you don't, but some people do. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 08:24
 You know me well enough to know that, yeah, I don't fall into that Bobblehead stuff. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 08:27
 Yeah. So just helping people understand what some of the options are. Go ahead. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 08:34
 So fast forwarding. Here we are 2023, and you have this wellness center. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 08:39
 Yeah. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 08:40
 You tell me, what do you do in the wellness center? What do people gain from being around you? Or what are some of the things that I would say? What would be really important for people to know about either their own health journey or we got the why of what you do. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 08:53
 It started from your own illness, and you kind of create your own path. But what's your mission? Why do you do what you do now? And what are some of the benefits of what could you tell people? 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 09:05
 Well, I am not here to give you good news about your bad habits. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 09:09
 Doesn't make me very popular. But I am really here to enrich, inspire, and empower. I start with water because it makes up 75% of the equation, but it's not all we do. I'm really about helping people manage their inflammation and get out of pain and off medications, which is constantly getting me in trouble. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 09:34
 I really wanted to take this to another level and reach more people. So I decided to open a wellness center and created around this amazing water that is your body 75% water. It's a really big piece of the puzzle, and I just felt like God wanted me to do this. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 09:53
 So I found a place, and it's crazy expensive and took nine months for the build out. And literally eleven days after we got the doors open, COVID hit. I remember that. Wow. So I was like, okay. God. What the beep? 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 10:11
 And we just decided, well, water is essential. We'll stay open. We'll keep serving people. We'd done a lot of marketing around it, and we just kept going, and somehow we survived. The corporate office has given me just a ton of grief. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 10:29
 Partly because of COVID the regulations have all changed, and the FDA is breathing down their neck, and now they're breathing down my neck. And so things that were okay to say three years ago are no longer okay to say. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 10:42
 So I opened a Kangen water store, and whoa, got in trouble. And so I turned it into the Good Water Store, and, whoa, now I can't even have a website that talks about water because by association so I can't talk about my I can't ever say the C word because by association, they assume that I use the water with cancer. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 11:04
 I didn't. It came after, but by association. So then, just tired of fighting with corporate, I rebranded again. Actually, I don't even have a website right now. It's in the mix. But the Vibrant Health Wellness Center is where we've landed because we are so much more than just water, and you got to pick your battles, and I want to reach people in the biggest way possible, and so I don't want to the people I'm trying to promote. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 11:34
 So Vibrant Health Wellness Center, it is. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 11:38
 What I know about you, because I do know you beyond just the business world. You have massage therapists in there. You have other things. You have a sauna. You've got different things that contribute to people's overall health and wellness. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 11:49
 So it just makes sense that you're under that. One of the things we like to talk about on this podcast is the ugly side of the business. So I know you've had quite a bit of experience with the ugly side and some hurdles you've had to jump through. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 12:03
 Anything you want to share? Let's say brand new entrepreneurs are out there listening to this podcast. What would you say would be really important for them to know? What would be some key things you would say these are things you want to avoid or want to make sure you think about ahead of time or do your research on or anything like that. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 12:18
 Okay. At the end of the day, we're all in sales, and most people hate sales. And the thing is, when whatever you're selling if you're coming at someone with what we call commission breath, you're not going to do very well. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 12:36
 It's really about serving. And to me, that was the revelation. My block was about sales because nobody wants to be sold, right? You go to buy a car and you're, paying twice what you thought you were going to pay, and you didn't even get what you wanted. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 12:53
 And at the end of the day, I'm in the people business, and I feel like anybody who's really doing it well, ,,,understands that they're in the people business, and they're here to serve. So when you understand that, then you're successful no matter which way it goes. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 13:13
 Does that make sense? 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 13:14
 It does. I always look at it because I say the same thing with what we do. It's about educating. If you educate people, then they have the power to make their own decisions. And you brought up something a while back about kind of like being a sheep, like, do what you're told. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 13:27
 And that's one of the things I love about you, is you go against the grain, you're not going to do what you told person you're like, no, I'm to do my own research. No, I'm going to blaze my own path. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 13:34
 I'll use my machete and cut the trees down myself. I don't need to follow what somebody else does. And that's something I feel is really important. Especially there's always going to be hoops you have to jump through. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 13:44
 There's always going to be legalities that we have to follow in business. But that doesn't mean we have to listen to everything that we're told. And unfortunately, we live in a world where we have so much information at our fingertips, with the Internet, with different trainers, with different coaches, and everyone, excuse me, my language blows smoke up everyone's butt, right? 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 14:02
 They're all like, oh, if you follow my three step process, within one month you'll be making six figures, and in three weeks you'll be a millionaire. And it just drives everybody crazy. The overnight success thing, we talked about that earlier in the podcast series. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 14:17
 We really hit on that pretty hard. But knowing what you're doing and being I love the fact you talk about serving people because that's really important. And being in this industry for 27 years, I believe it was 27 years, I'm sure you've seen a lot of changes in the industry. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 14:36
 There's so many health coaches now and life coaches now, and I've been doing it for almost 30 years, and I never actually charged for it until recently. It flows out of me. It just kind of came with what I do, and I've resisted it because I don't want to go with the flow. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 14:56
 I don't want to be part of the pack. I'm just a black sheep by nature, which is why I say I'm not the kind of coach that's going to give you good news about your bad habits. I'll be your biggest cheerleader, but I'm going to call you on the mat, and if you're not making choices that. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 15:17
 Support you, 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 15:20
 what's interesting is because you just referred to coaching, and I don't know you as a coach, I know you as a person, I know you as a business, as a local business owner. I know you on a personal level. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 15:31
 And I think coaching, and correct me if I'm wrong, is a byproduct of what you actually do. It is. You don't label yourself a coach. You're not out there selling coaching packages or programs to people. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 15:42
 You are. In the industry of helping people get healthy. And as a byproduct, you do coaching, you do mentoring, you do share stories, you do trial and error stuff. You do kind of show people different ways as opposed to what the norm is. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 15:57
 Yeah, because of the business model of Kangen Water is direct sales. And the business model of the garden tech that we sell is direct sales. The business model of the stem cell therapy patches is direct sales. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 16:15
 And so, like I said, when I discovered that when I become a better person, I do better in business, that's a huge part of the business coaching. But there's also the business coaching of how do you do this? 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 16:31
 How do you go and find people? How do you sell without selling? 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 16:37
 And I think that's a big hurdle for people, is they hear sales and they immediately think, that car salesman, that car shark. Let me sell your left arm so you can pay for your right one. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 16:51
 It's one of those things where we get so stuck in sales, and I feel like you really kind of opened up a big can of worms of when you serve people, the sales will come. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 17:00
 The other piece of it is that my husband's office is here at the store. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 17:04
 He's a video production guy. And people say, oh, you're so lucky you guys get to work together. And we are we're incredibly blessed that we get to work together. And it comes with a lot of challenges. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 17:21
 It comes with a lot of challenges. You know, and we have a membership model, so we get to see the same customers over and over again, and it's amazing, but it also comes with a lot of challenges. Like, we get really involved in people's lives, and we get to know people really well, which is I started Kangen Water 15 years ago, and. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 17:43
 Three years ago, we opened the brick and mortar. Two totally separate animals. Like the ugly of a brick and mortar. Holy shit. It's hard. I have no idea what I was getting into. And people are always like, oh, you should put a juice bar in here. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 17:58
 Oh, you should do this. And, like, the logistics of it are it's bananas. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 18:03
 So going off that, what would you say some of the biggest struggles are? What is the ugly? What is some of the ugly things you've seen? 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 18:09
 What are some of the biggest struggles you've had to overcome or hurdles you've had to jump through? 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 18:15
 Just, like, permits and taxes and people that don't show up when they're supposed to show up. Nobody's going to love your baby like you love your baby. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 18:28
 And when you have a brick and mortar, you got to show up. There's days when I'm in there scrubbing the toilet and I'm ticked. I'm like, I shouldn't be scrubbing the toilet. I'm the queen bee in this place. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 18:39
 And guess what? When you own a brick and mortar, you wear every hat in the beginning. Well, it's a good thing. I had no idea what I was getting into. I thought I did because my parents owned a grocery store when I was a kid. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 18:53
 And being behind the counter, that's home. I love people. I can talk to people all day long. I don't mind showing up and being in the same place until I want to go on vacation, because I got to find people, and nobody is you. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 19:12
 Right. So I can find people that are passionate about what I do, but for them to take this on and really like, oh, see that? The shelves need to be dusted or the toilet needs to be scrubbed because some wonderful customer left us a present, that's the ugly. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 19:30
 That's the really hard yeah. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 19:33
 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 19:33
 And it's funny because you talk about staffing, and that, I think, is a consistent issue everywhere right now, is finding people. And beyond finding people. Finding people you can trust and you hit the nail on the head. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 19:44
 Nobody is you when you're in your own business. You are the business and you are the owner. And unless you have some major model where you're scaling huge and like a franchise model or something, even then as the owner, you are going to take a different perspective, a different look and trying to hire people that are going to see your mission, vision and values and being able to create that culture. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 20:06
 It's still they're not going to pay attention to details because it's not theirs. They don't own it. They're not as in the game, they don't have the skin in the game that you do. It's a job. They're not the business owner. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 20:16
 And I feel like when you are it took me years to understand this about myself, but when you're part of that 2% that is motivated and determined and just unstoppable, you think everybody's like that and they're just not. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 20:37
 You can't want more for someone than they want for themselves. I realize that I can't take somebody else's health more seriously than they will take it, nor can I take their business more seriously than they'll take it. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 20:52
 And for me that's been the hardest part because I'm so driven by people and results and I'm excited when other people win. I'm excited when they make a sale. I'm excited when somebody's pain goes away. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 21:04
 I'm like, I'm your greatest cheerleader. But other people just don't have that. Not other people. Not everybody has that energy and that's hard to wrap your head around when you do. It's very difficult. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 21:19
 If there was a piece of advice or something you would say to new business owners, is there anything you would encourage them to think about or look at or do? Buckle up, buttercup, because this is going to be a bumpy ride. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 21:30
 This is not for the faint of heart, but if you love people and if you love to serve, you'll succeed. Because if that's your why. Then you won't stop. And what I have found is that there have been blocks every step of the way, and you just have to learn to be like water. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 21:54
 Go with the flow, go around, find a way. And tenacity and determination are probably my greatest attributes, my stubbornness. Yeah, 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 22:05
 that's great how you went back to the water. Be like water. Bruce Lee, I remember sharing quote, he has a whole quote about being like water and water. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 22:15
 Put water in a cup, it becomes a cup. Put water in a bottle, it becomes a bottle. Be like water. Be fluid, being able to flow. It's great. And I think I would agree with you on the entrepreneurial side, it does kick your butt. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 22:29
 You are going to be working longer hours than everyone else. You are going to be sacrificing nights, weekends, holidays. You're going to be up to your ears, up to your head, underwater sometimes and feeling you can't even breathe. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 22:40
 And that is reality. And I would say you and I are very similar in we're both local businesses. And I know you probably do things wider because you can sell product where I'm more of a service based business. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 22:55
 But there are people who are probably maybe listening to this, who are in different countries or who maybe have an online market, and they don't get to have that personal touch. They don't get to maybe even interact with their customers. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 23:09
 So is there anything you would say to people like that who are maybe they have an online business or an ecommerce business or something along those lines? What would you say is, hey, you know what? These are things you need to be aware of. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 23:21
 I would say even though they're not meeting with them physically, it's still about the relationship. I'm sure you've got this A DM. Hey, I know we haven't met, but I've got this great thing. You'd be really good at this. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 23:39
 Or like, stop. Get to know people, make it about the relationship before you try to sell them something. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 23:48
 Yeah, it's funny you say that because you recently met Maria. She does that when she does some online order. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 23:55
 She always throws in something extra. So they put their order in, and then she'll make a little extra gift to give them. When she sends stuff out, she sends out a little, hey, thank you. Here's a little something extra for you. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 24:06
 You at the end of the day, people are falling in love with you. They're buying you, not your product. And when I first started my entrepreneurial journey, I remember my coach said, be a product of the product. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 24:19
 What does that mean? Well, for the water business, it means you got to drink the water. You got to love the water. But really, if your business at the end of the day is people and you're in service, being a product of the product means, how can I serve? 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 24:37
 How can I help you? And when you approach whatever you're selling or whatever you're doing in life, when you have that heart, you can't not succeed. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 24:48
 I would agree with you, and I think it's so important to focus on that, of how we're helping people in. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 24:54
 General, 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 24:55
 especially now with the temperature and the political and the voldemort, certain things that you can't even say. I would say just being people talk a lot about being authentic, but I don't think they really know what that means. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 25:17
 Really leading from the heart and being not vulnerable, as in I'm going to share all of my trash on Facebook, but vulnerable in the way that I'm going to be really real with you. So that in a really authentic way to give you permission to be real with me, like authentic, meaning I really do. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 25:39
 Love people. I really do want to help people. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 25:43
 And you said something. Got to remember what it was. Oh, the product and the service piece. I was going to touch on this because your main business is water. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 25:53
 Yeah, I could turn my faucet and get water. Why do I come to you? And that's a really big thing, is it's not just about the product. You are educating people. And we all know, at least here in the States, tap water is horrible. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 26:09
 Not sure about other places, but I know where we're at. It's absolutely horrible. And I've followed water for years. My mom sold water filtration back jeez, when I was a kid. I've done my own research on it. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 26:19
 There's a lot of stuff in the water that people don't even know about. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 26:22
 Yeah, it looks like water, but be careful. And we sell whole house filters and point of use filters in addition to the Kangen water systems, because there's a lot of crap in the tap. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 26:35
 And yeah, education. Education 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 26:40
 on that. I would encourage anybody listening right now. Do your research on stuff. Don't just believe what somebody says. Don't just believe what Mikki says. Don't believe what I say. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 26:49
 Don't believe what other people tell you. Do research. Go out there, find information. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 26:57
 On that note, Ian, let me put a plug in here, because a lot of times people, they put something into the Google and they think that's research, that's an opinion. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 27:07
 And Google is always trying to sell you something. It's designed to give you more of what you're looking for. So if you're looking for something and you've got a pro and a con, this one's for it and this one's against it. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 27:22
 This one likes red and this one likes blue. Whichever one you click on, Google is going to give you more of that. So at the end of your research, you're going to go, I'm convinced that I'm right. Are you? 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 27:36
 Things aren't always what they seem. And I'm going to challenge you to go into the Google and put in Google Scholar. Type that in and then hit enter. And now you have a whole different search engine without ads. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 27:52
 Most people don't know that. And so they're just putting things into the Google, the almighty Google and taking that as word. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 28:03
 I'm glad you brought that up. The Google Scar piece is great, and maybe we can add that in a link somewhere down below once this gets published. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 28:11
 And definitely, thank you so much for jumping on before we close out. If somebody wanted to reach out to you, if somebody wanted to connect with you, what's the best way to do so? 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 28:20
 My email is yourwaterlady@gmail.com, and my website, once it's up and running, will be vibranthealthwellnesscenter.com. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 28:31
 And by the time this podcast gets aired, you might have that live, which might be a few weeks out. Who knows? Do you have any online presence? Do you have any Instagram or Facebook or anything like that? 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 28:44
 Yeah, and right now, it's the Goodwater Store. Probably going to change that to Vibrant Health Wellness Center. God help me. But the goodwater store on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, we're all over the place. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 29:00
 And thegoodwaterstore.com all of them are going to take you to the same place. So we're just going to redirect that to the Vibrant Health Wellness Center so you can find me Mikki Meisner. I'm all over the place. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 29:13
 Mickey, thank you so much for taking the time this morning. I certainly appreciate it. And we'll make sure, you know, when this this gets aired and you'll get copies of it. You rock. Thank you so much. 
 
 

Ian Manheimer 29:22
 Those of you who are tuning into Habits of Influence, remember, we air this podcast every week, so tune in for more information, tips, tricks, the good, the bad, and the ugly. Hope everyone has a great week and we will see you soon. 
 
 

Mikki Meisner 29:34
 Thanks, Ian.